Curse

chullster · Jun 29, 2011, 12:57 PM // 12:57

I am disappoint.

I hear top end GvGer are not the same as the e-peen players you see in RA and HA.

I play RA, no syncing. I get a team with a war with lvl 13 pet, who brought it to level it up, an ele with spells from 3 attribute lines, and a sin caster. I'm bog-standard stance monk. We get 6 or 7 wins, I forget. I was laughing at war hitting with power attack, bulls, bodyblow then might smash with his pet following him about. All of us had a jolly old time, and tried really hard to win.

That team above was most fun I've had in RA in ages.

I play RA again, as para going for max damage, no utility. I know para is not optimal, but it's a game and only RA so doesn't matter.

This time I get 2 gold caped players, one monk and one derv, and a hammer war is other guy.

The derv is [Evil], so I ask if he is from guild who won GWWC, and if one of the actually players. The monk who is gold cape from some other guild says yes, he is and that they both synced.

I say I am a little sad top end players sync RA, he replies they do so to get glad points (weird I know, who would care about glad title after winning GWWC?)

I reply "you can get them playing normally, even more so now (since update)"

Then he says I am just along for the ride implying I might as well go afk, as they are so awesome they'll get 25 without me.

I genuinely then ask if they never got 25 (or 10 as it used to be) without a healer, to which I got back "don't get cocky pal" as well as other comments.

Now call me deluded but I started off thinking these guys would be something special, they've seen it all etc etc. But no, just the same as all the other people you see on the QQ forums. It's like seeing Arnie in that recent movie, you're sad to see him so old-looking and the gloss has faded.

Needless to say I left the second match as it started, they don't need me anyway so why bother, I'd rather get thanks for trying to keep a new players level 13 pet alive.

/rant of deflation and let-down

edit: changed the thread title

Ximvotn · Jun 29, 2011, 01:01 PM // 13:01

There's no absence of elitism is any aspect of Guild Wars or multiplayer game for that matter. Cape trim stopped being special a long time ago, don't let it fool you even if they're from [Evil], skills and professions have changed so much since they won the GWWC.

Sk8tborderx · Jun 29, 2011, 01:04 PM // 13:04

So 2 people in RA who could have easily (and most likely) lied to you about being core for their gold cape guilds represents all top players?

chullster · Jun 29, 2011, 01:21 PM // 13:21

I know, I should not be such a care-bear, but it was like finding out Santa is in fact your parents sneaking about at night.

The mysterious Koreans turn out to be no different from others.

I took a screenshot when I first loaded in, thinking it was nice to get a GWWC player in my team.

Then I took more later when it went downhill, I can check if the name was part of that core I suppose, but who knows might have been the actual players little brother or whatever.

You can see the same old guilds syncing RA (1-8, gifd, KvZ, RaT, zulu) and they are bottom of the PvP barrel, they never have a trim, or win HoH, so I kind of hoped those guilds/players that do have such things are above having to abuse the arena.

As I said at the time, I am disappoint.

LordDragon · Jun 29, 2011, 01:49 PM // 13:49

I run into all kinds in RA. Had a good run with a really weird team of 2 mezzies (I was one) a warrior and an ele. We went 12 wins and everyone was having a great time joking around and not taking things too serious. Self healing is a wonderful thing.

Next team was a nice mix with a monk and we got rolled. Not going to go into the nasty comments.

Some people just take it all too seriously is all. Best teams I have ever been on are those where we all thought that there was no way we were going to win but then roll over teams with leet healers. The thing is those teams are filled with people that don't leave and try to win no matter what the team mix. Just an attitude issue is all.

Coast · Jun 29, 2011, 01:51 PM // 13:51

can't be core from evil, they are all gone as far as i remember.

thedeadwalk! · Jun 29, 2011, 01:54 PM // 13:54

I would've sat back and collected strongboxes.

Sankt Hallvard · Jun 29, 2011, 01:59 PM // 13:59

If you play RA "for fun" ur doin it wrong. RA is obviously about the glad pts and long streaks with synced teams. RA now is pretty much like the old TA where good teams farm random trash from old RA. Playing RA now without syncing means you are either retarded or a masochist.

I don't understand why you are disappoint that people act rationally and try to maximize their profits. I would be more worried if people did the opposite.

Amy Awien · Jun 29, 2011, 02:19 PM // 14:19

You're absolutely right, we can't have that, people playing a game for fun, the mere thought ... the horror, the horror.

mage767 · Jun 29, 2011, 02:21 PM // 14:21

The way I see it, syncing in RA means you are just bad. It means you need extra utilities like voice-chat (with pals) to coordinate properly. Note that players who do not sync cannot afford this luxury. Hence, if you sync, you are just a bad player, that's my point of view.

Now, I have played RA for points, not syncing, even though a few players from my previous guild played RA regularly (I switched guild this week). I got to r3 in a single week via multiple 25-win streaks w/monk, and several 15+ win streaks w/o monk. I play a diverse range of professions - I simply switch profession or/and bars slightly to adapt to current challenges. This also allows me to turn in my Zaishen RA quest on multiple characters. Therefore, it IS for POINTS and COINS, but I don't sync.

The first thing that happens in RA in non-monk teams is that some players begin resigning at start. This is understandable because it lowers chances of a win. However, a strong spike team can easily defeat scores of weak monks flooding RA these days. Therefore, I take a moment to find out what others in my team are running. Then, we plan to spike the caster (non-monk) squishies first, and after the first spike, switch quickly to the monk, calling targets each time. Even with text chat, it IS possible to coordinate properly with random players. Once they are motivated from the first win against a team w/monk, they will keep going as far as we can go. The problems are... many players are just lazy to take the effort to type in team chat, some don't listen regardless, and some don't understand (non-english speakers).

A built-in team voice-chat option would go a long way in closing the gap between voice-enabled sync teams and text-only random teams. I don't expect this in GW1, but would be extremely useful iN GW2.

Lanier · Jun 29, 2011, 02:24 PM // 14:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sankt Hallvard

If you play RA "for fun" ur doin it wrong. RA is obviously about the glad pts and long streaks with synced teams. RA now is pretty much like the old TA where good teams farm random trash from old RA. Playing RA now without syncing means you are either retarded or a masochist.

I don't understand why you are disappoint that people act rationally and try to maximize their profits. I would be more worried if people did the opposite.

lol... what? Not everyone is like you buddy. When I RA, I dont do it for glad points or strongboxes - I do it because its fun. In the same vein, if I dont feel like RA is fun atm, I dont do RA. This is a game... I dont understand how you can think that everyone would be there for the "profits".

Your post was so rediculous that at first, I thought it was a troll post. Only after reading the second part did I begin to think that you were being serious.

Skyy High · Jun 29, 2011, 02:27 PM // 14:27

1) They could have been lying.
2) They're just two people.
3) That didn't even sound that bad....what exactly was bad here? The synching? Lol...surprise surprise, people want to get multiple PvP titles raised, particularly when they're not playing GvG.

Brian the Gladiator · Jun 29, 2011, 02:35 PM // 14:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sankt Hallvard

If you play RA "for fun" ur doin it wrong. RA is obviously about the glad pts and long streaks with synced teams. RA now is pretty much like the old TA where good teams farm random trash from old RA. Playing RA now without syncing means you are either retarded or a masochist.

I don't understand why you are disappoint that people act rationally and try to maximize their profits. I would be more worried if people did the opposite.

1) You really have no authority to tell people what they can and can not do to have fun in a video game.

2) I personally have plenty of success playing RA without syncing and without having a monk on my team. I went 15 wins in a row just yesterday without a monk and we faced mostly teams with a monk, we were just better. How does this make me retarded or a masochist?

3) He is disappointed that people use exploits that violate A-Net rules. Honesty is an irrational quality that I wouldn't mind seeing more of.

Next time, try to make a more intelligent response.

floor · Jun 29, 2011, 03:07 PM // 15:07

there are i think 41 gold trim guilds.
41 x 8 players = 328.
Now remove say, 50, for people who have won multiple golds, so as not to be counted twice.

This leaves you with 278 players with gold trim, very approximately ofc.
Of those 278, probably close to 200 have quit the game.
This leaves you with 78 players with a genuine gold trim.

Now explain why there are several hundred players with gold trims in RA everyday???
could it possibly be that there are in fact hundreds of players who are merely "leeching" capes, or even worse, paid for invites?? U know i think there could....

99% of the players u see with a gold cape did not win that gold cape, in many cases i suspect they have never won any cape at all. If you were aware of this already then i am sorry for stating the obvious, but if anyone reading this did not know this shocking news, then i am glad i was able to enlighten you. Most gold cape players are lying!

chullster · Jun 29, 2011, 03:36 PM // 15:36

The responses in this thread have cheered me up.

Nice to see other people who play for fun too, and some people from pvp guilds chipping in.

I am now more determined to keep on playing RA properly, ie don't sync, play any profession I like and try to help anyone who has just started playing to get a win or two.

I will even keep trying to find a pvp guild that does HA/GvG now, so far I keep ending up in ones that just sync RA or CA.

chuckles79 · Jun 29, 2011, 05:03 PM // 17:03

whatever happened to having fun but wanting to get a little in return.
I think syncing is silly, but obviously it's just the way some teams roll.

makosi · Jun 29, 2011, 05:13 PM // 17:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuckles79

whatever happened to having fun but wanting to get a little in return.
I think syncing is silly, but obviously it's just the way some teams roll.

You can have fun but not at the expense of others. There's no good reason to bring a paragon to RA other than for your own indulgence. It's detrimental to the team as a whole.

Still Number One · Jun 29, 2011, 05:22 PM // 17:22

He wasn't a core from EvIL. They quit long ago, came back and then quit again. The guild is filled with a ton of glad point farmers who think they are amazing because they have a decent glad rank and are leeching a gold trim in arguably the greatest guild to ever have played the game. They are not top tier GvGers, and they do not represent top tier GvGers in anyway.

If you are in RA playing with a guy who has a gold trim on his back, 95% of the time you are playing with a cape leecher. The people who were actually a part of the team that won gold usually have quit the game or don't ever get on Guild Wars except during AT times so they can GvG and then get off and do other things.

And if they are a part of a long since dead guild like EvIL, dR, or that rebel rising and friends guild, chances are probably closer to 99.999999% that they never had anything to do with getting that cape on their back. They are either just a friend of one of the players, paid a lot of money to get into it, or were one of those annoying fan boys that rawr let leech the cape of one of their many smurfs.

*lemming* · Jun 29, 2011, 05:47 PM // 17:47

You were lied to.

Kydd · Jun 29, 2011, 05:55 PM // 17:55

Syncing with one other guy cause you want to play with a buddy is not a big deal.